CABRERA: “Yeah, congresswoman, I’m reminded of what happened just last night, too, because we saw a post from Senator Ed Markey, who was denied access outside the EPA building last night, was greeted by a private security guard, apparently, and was told he couldn’t come in. Is this the new tactic or strategy that Democrats are embarking upon to draw attention to the many things that are happening right now within the Trump Administration? Should we expect more of these types of efforts?”

WATERS: “Yes, you can expect more. As you know, we had thousands in front of the Treasury Department just two days ago. We were locked out. This is where Elon Musk had gone in and has access to all of the payment systems in this country, and has all of the access to all of our private information, the Social Security numbers on everybody in this country, all of what is happening with the tax revenue, on and on and on, all of the bills to be paid. He has all of that. Elon Musk is basically a government gangster who’s acting as faux president of the United States of America, and he is wreaking havoc on this country.”

CABRERA: “Congresswoman Waters, can you hold on for a second? Did you — did you say that Elon Musk has people’s tax ID numbers, Social Security numbers? Do you know that he actually has that information?”

WATERS: “Yes, we know he got it. He’s got it. Yes, ma’am. We know that he’s in possession of it. Yes.”

CABRERA: “And what’s your worry that he would do with that. What about what he would do with that information?”

WATERS: “Well, you know, with all of the private information that he has, he can do anything that he wants to do. I think he’s capable of monetizing it. He has the — he has every database to put together that he wants that is available to him, with all of this information, to do anything that he wants to do with it. He could turn it into market opportunities, et cetera, et cetera. I don’t trust him. He’s the richest man in this country, and not only is he in control of our payment system, they have gone abroad. Do you know that South Africa is being threatened by Elon Musk and the president of the United States because he wants to build a battery factory in South Africa, and he wants them to eliminate the 30% requirement that was fought for when we fought apartheid, and they put in their constitution that the businesses coming into Africa that want to do business have to have partnerships with the people who live there, 30%? And he is now being threatened. And now President Trump says they’re going to take away all of their USAID money if they don’t let them do it.”

CABRERA: “You certainly bring up some of the conflicts of interest with the Elon Musk involvement in all of these different areas. Thank you, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, for joining us. We appreciate you shining light.”